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2010 Ballot Measures California
Darlene Said:
A few questions regarding California's prop 8?We Answered:
According to the California state constitution, they can put it on the ballot as often as they like during election cycles. It will probably win by 2014 or 2016 at the very latest due to generational replacement. 2010 is a bad idea, but 2012 might be better. Gay marriage approval is strongly generational in nature; more older people tend to vote, and they don't like it, but once younger voters start entering the electorate in greater numbers the situation will change since they are strongly in favor of it. With this issue, I hate to say it but it's really a matter of letting more time go by (and thus more older voters exiting the electorate due to natural causes).Wade Said:
LGBT I'm torn apart.........?We Answered:
i think that ultimately, 'state-by-state' is the way to goMichelle Said:
So yesterday we had a pretty big victory......DOMA ruled unconstitutional....?We Answered:
That is terrific news for lgbt persons in Massachusetts and I hope this prevails in the Supreme courts.It's quite angering, knowing that in 2010 lgbt human and civil rights bills passed by the US Senate, are still all being taken to the Supreme Courts and being protested against, and/or are place on a public referendum.
Since this process is over repeated in the USA, I think it's about time American lgbt person got all together an bring a counter civil suit against. These anti gay Republican and Fundamental Christian separatist groups, who take every Senate passed bill to the Supreme Courts to have them removed and dissolved.
For a court ruling forbidding them to ever do this again, by introducing full anti discrimination laws used globally. Making it against the law in the United States, to discriminate against the equal human and civil rights and freedoms of any American citizen, just like in many global countries.
If these full anti discrimination laws were passed, there would be no more anti gay DADT laws or Prop 8's. Nor ethnic, colour, gender,sexual orientation, age, disability, or non or personal belief discrimination in employment, housing, partners rights, wages, etc, etc, because it will be totally against the law. This would not just benefit, just American lgbt persons, it would also benefit all Americans.
This is the only way that will put a final stop to this anti gay, gender, colour, ethnic, age, disability and non or religious bigotry in the USA to move on rather than remain at stale mate. By these over repeated court cases, always made by Republican and Fundamental Christian separatist groups.
Even if full anti discrimination laws were passed in California and Massachusetts, both these cases would be legally dropped out of the US courts on discriminational grounds, and could never be legally contested or publicly propositioned ever again.
Then there would be no ten year wait, or having to get prop 8 on the ballot. Because this could be taken to the Supreme court as a discrimination case against lgbt persons, living in California.
Jim Said:
I have some important questions regarding California's prop 8?We Answered:
1) 2010, why not? That way if it gets removed from the CA Constitution, The supporter of Prop 8 can then put it back on the menu in 2012, and continue it further till they start to do something about the funky CA intuitive process!2) It will go all the way to the Supreme Court!
3) Ha ha, only time will tell on this one the Supreme Court might not even take the case, they have a history of putting off LBGT cases!
4) Nope the case goes on!
5)Oh no, we can take this to the ballot every election year until: A) the CA initiative process is changed or B) The US Supreme Court makes its stand!
Sam Said:
If Prop 8 supporters could have given themselves standing, but didn't, will they have only themselves to blame?We Answered:
While all of this is interesting, in a shoulda-coulda-woulda way, Prop 8 and all the other states that define marriage as a union between a man and a woman legalize the abridgment of rights. Same sex marriage is an equal rights issue. You may not agree with same sex marriage, but do you (or anyone else) have the right to deny gay couples the right to marry? I think the Supreme Court will eventually rule that marriage between same sex couples is legal - just as it did for interracial couples. It does amaze me that the American Bar Association isn't pushing for same sex marriage (because there would be same sex divorce).